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Re: newbie saying hi
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2011, 13:00:50 PM »
Is it as easy to fit as the 3.0 Teejay?

I've no doubt it's a better built engine, but is it worth having if it's extra hassle?

Engine is likely to cost a bit more than the easier to find 3.0 and I wondered if it drops in as easily.

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« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2011, 16:10:56 PM »
I'm told it is just as easy - that's the lump I'm going for (Z32SE from the Vecta C)
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Re: newbie saying hi
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2011, 18:58:34 PM »
This was the advice I got:
3.2 is a better engine main advantage is it has a steel crankshaft which is lighter and stronger.
The vectra 3.2 is probably the best engine to carry out a conversion with for the following reasons:
it was the last engine built so has all the engine mods i.e latest hydraulic tappets, oil pump, block design, also has the metal sandwich type head gaskets fitted - these are the type they eventually fitted to the rover to solve the head gasket problems they had.
it was also the only v6 built that used fully synthetic oil

cheers teejay thats some sound info there and i think i may look at this further.

does/can the z32se run run off the c25xe ecu?

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« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2011, 10:48:46 AM »
Yep, the ecu, the alternator, the clutch, timing belt etc can all be used from the 2.5.
I think the sensors would have to be swapped over as the plugs on the z32SE are a different shape.
You will also need the inlet and fuel rail etc from your original engine.
You can keep the sump that's on the new lump though.
I'm going to get a new thermostat as it has to be the one from the 3.2 as it's a different part on the 2.5, new heat exchanger, new water pump, thinking about a clutch as although the original will fit the recommendation is to fit the one from the 2.6 as it's slightly bigger, you just need to get a new thrust bearing as the 2.6 is from a vectra which has a hydraulic slave cylinder.
I've already got a lightened flywheel and I'm going to get new induction, top and bottom and ancillary silicone hoses just cause my originals are looking a bit tired.
If you've got the funds it may be worth getting a new alternator as it's a much easier job while the engine's out!
If you're uprating manifolds and down pipes this is the time to do those as well but definately get new manifold gaskets.
I think the 3.2 has plastic cam covers but the Veccy B cam covers will fit.
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Re: newbie saying hi
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2011, 11:09:34 AM »
Teejay I'm looking forward to your project thread on this ;D will you be doing the work yourself?

Also as for useing the original inlet and fuel rail how much of the original inlet will you use off the 2.5? As the 2.5s inlet is quite restrictive so it would be even worse on a bigger capacity engine.

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« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2011, 11:15:55 AM »
No I won't be doing the work, Geffd will be doing it but I will do loads of pics as we are hoping to get the whole thing done in a day.
The lower divider from the Omega/Vectra will replace the original - I already have one which I was going to put in my 2.5.
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Re: newbie saying hi
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2011, 12:26:19 PM »
Spot on mate, iv got the larger lower inlet on mine and it did reduce the two flat spots but saying that putting the lightened flywheel on has made the flat spots more noticeable again as you loose that flywheel affect that hid the flatspots before.

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« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2011, 12:28:10 PM »
noticed your oil pressure gauge is off the scale - these happens when the lead comes off / breaks off the sender unit on the oil pump
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Re: newbie saying hi
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2011, 12:32:13 PM »
noticed your oil pressure gauge is off the scale - these happens when the lead comes off / breaks off the sender unit on the oil pump

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« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2011, 13:03:28 PM »
saunders gauge see interior pic
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« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2011, 16:31:43 PM »
saunders gauge see interior pic

Ahh ok sorry, mine did that, gave the connector a clean and it was fine

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Re: newbie saying hi
« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2011, 20:37:22 PM »
noticed your oil pressure gauge is off the scale - these happens when the lead comes off / breaks off the sender unit on the oil pump

yeah need to have a play with that soon the bulb doesnt eluminate either  ::)

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« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2011, 20:38:53 PM »
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Re: newbie saying hi
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2011, 20:42:25 PM »
Yep, the ecu, the alternator, the clutch, timing belt etc can all be used from the 2.5.
I think the sensors would have to be swapped over as the plugs on the z32SE are a different shape.
You will also need the inlet and fuel rail etc from your original engine.
You can keep the sump that's on the new lump though.
I'm going to get a new thermostat as it has to be the one from the 3.2 as it's a different part on the 2.5, new heat exchanger, new water pump, thinking about a clutch as although the original will fit the recommendation is to fit the one from the 2.6 as it's slightly bigger, you just need to get a new thrust bearing as the 2.6 is from a vectra which has a hydraulic slave cylinder.
I've already got a lightened flywheel and I'm going to get new induction, top and bottom and ancillary silicone hoses just cause my originals are looking a bit tired.
If you've got the funds it may be worth getting a new alternator as it's a much easier job while the engine's out!
If you're uprating manifolds and down pipes this is the time to do those as well but definately get new manifold gaskets.
I think the 3.2 has plastic cam covers but the Veccy B cam covers will fit.

Il be looking forward to that project, is the standard inlet manifold capable or would it struggle?

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Re: newbie saying hi
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2011, 21:08:43 PM »
standard inlet will be fine, the lower divider is a good upgrade to the one that comes out of the Omega. I think Butcher showed some pics when he did his
You could port and polish the throttle body manifolds etc but you wouldn't get any majot benefit from that unless you went right through with uprated s/s manifolds, down pipes, sports cat, and cat back exhaust
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