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How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« on: February 21, 2009, 01:45:28 AM »
I'll just cover the 4 cylinders, as I'm not too hot on the V6's... although they are also a fairly straightforward swap and great for towing caravans.

For starters lets stick to engine codes, for those of you that don't know
C20NE = 2.0 8v
20XE = 2.0 Early "redtop"
C20XE = 2.0 Redtop with a cat
C20LET = 2.0 Turbo
X20XEV = 2.0 Ecotec

Remember, if the spark plug cover is L-shaped, it's a 20XE or C20XE even if it says ecotec!
C20XE/20XE are the same engine for the purposes of engine swaps discussed here! Ecotec = straight spark plug cover.

I'll split the conversions up into different areas, and deal with each of them separately.

Engine/gearbox mounts
All 4 cylinder Calibra engines have one engine mount. It's the same on all engines, so no need to swap it but use the one in the best condition. The gearbox has two mounts. I believe these are all the same except possibly the F28's front mount.

Here you see the engine mount used on C20NE, C20XE, C20LET and X20XEV


Gearboxes and driveshafts
Any Calibra gearbox will fit any Calibra engine! As a guide, you're best off with an F20 for anything non-turbo, or an F28 for a turbo or V6.

Use a flat flywheel for a more responsive engine. Downside is it wont have as much momentum for launches and it wont be as smooth. Use a pot flywheel for added momentum and smoothness, but less response.

All the C20NE, XE and XEV driveshafts are the same, and will work with either F18 or F20 gearboxes. All the speedo cables just unscrew and swap straight over. The clutch cables are even easier. Beware, some gearboxes (ie some F28) are electronic speedo drive. This means you'll have to swap over the wiring and speedo clocks too. If possible stick to a gearbox of the same type you already have.

The F28 has a shorter O/S driveshaft because of the transfer box too, so you need this on a 4WD car. If converting the F28 to 2WD, use any NE, XE or XEV O/S shaft along with your 2WD conversion kit.

Fitting 4WD to your 2WD Calibra

It's do-able, but it is a fair amount of hassle and involves cutting up your floor. Do a search for Peachprformance on MIGWEB. He has a very good thread on this conversion.

Non-turbo Calibras do not need 4WD.

C20LET Calibras do need 4WD, so it doesn't make much sense to fit a C20LET into your 2WD Calibra. Just buy a Calibra Turbo. It's cheaper, easier and you get more benefits as well.

Fuel feeds
The two fuel rail unions are the same on all 4cyl Calibra engines, there's nothing to swap here, just dont get them the wrong way round on the rail.

ECU
Use the ECU from the donor car. They all mount behind the drivers footwell kickplate. If the donor car has an immobiliser, you need the transponder ring and key from the donor car, OR you need to chip the ECU in the case of the C20LET. C20LET PK and PJ code ECU's are non-immobilised. HD ECU's ARE immobilised.

A non-immobilised C20LET ECU


Wiring loom
Use the engine wiring loom from the donor vehicle. Where this reaches the drivers footwell, there are three plugs to connect to the car loom. Plus the giant plug for the ECU, and the vacuum pipe for the ECU map sensor on a C20LET. Don't touch your car loom, or the loom for the battery/alternator.

The engine loom passes through this grommet, next to the O/S suspension turret


Radiators
NE, XE and XEV radiators are very similar if not identical. Keep what you have already, and use the pipework off the donor engine if different (the thermostat to the top of the radiator varies). It is also worth noting these radiators are a good upgrade for a C20LET engine that's no longer using it's factory intercooler.

Exhaust
Use the manifold and downpipe from the donor car. If it mates to your existing cat, all well and good. If not you may need to change the cat as well.

Powersteering
All C20NE, XE and XEV pumps are the same, so take your old engine out with the pump attached. Put the new engine in (with it's pump attached) then just connect up the two PAS pipes and you're done.

Standard Calibra PAS pump


Odds and sods
Use the airbox from the donor car. When swapping an 8v for another engine, you'll need the throttle cable from the donor car as it has a different fitting on the end.
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2009, 02:02:32 AM »
as I'm not too hot on the V6's... although they are also a fairly straightforward swap and great for towing caravans.

Seeing as you need a bit more info here's a piece for you -

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2009, 02:10:18 AM »
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2009, 02:20:44 AM »
:D :D :D

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2009, 03:23:33 AM »
Perhaps add ignition coil or amplifier, clutch cable, alternator & mounts, to the get-from-donor car part of 'Odds & Sods'. The need for engine specific items varies depending on what is coming out/ going in, but getting those parts from the donor goes someway to reducing the gamble; also makes the extracted engine easier to sell if ancilliaries are attached.

Aircon engine mount is different. Haven't tried myself but I suspect that the XE thermostat-rad hose route might be blocked by the LET AFM Turbo intake.

*I don't think I have ever seen a Calibra with a tow hook; not a pleasant sight I imagine. :-\ :)

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2009, 10:59:07 AM »
Thread added to appropriate section. Good guide Chav 8)

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2009, 23:58:37 PM »
*I don't think I have ever seen a Calibra with a tow hook; not a pleasant sight I imagine. :-\ :)

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2009, 00:38:49 AM »
hhmmm, not as bad as some but definitely not my cuppa.

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2009, 15:29:37 PM »
short and sweet...good guide mate!!   :)

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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2009, 15:43:12 PM »
good guide

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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2009, 16:01:00 PM »
hhmmm, not as bad as some but definitely not my cuppa.

The main advantage - apart from the ability to tow things - is that it protects the rear bumper from people parking T-O-O close!  ;)

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2009, 15:16:42 PM »
good guide...but remember the early c20xe had the v belt so the engine mount was diffrent  ;)
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2009, 18:47:04 PM »
this will come in handy thanks

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2009, 19:04:47 PM »
good guide...but remember the early c20xe had the v belt so the engine mount was diffrent  ;)

There are a few variants of mounts for these engines, depending on the belt setup and also aircon. But the main thing is blocks are all the same bolt pattern, so the bits can be swapped freely between the blocks.

So you could remove a non-aircon, narrow-belt 8v and fit an aircon LET in place. Or more likely you would use the mounts off the 8v to remove the aircon from the LET ;)
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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2009, 13:29:12 PM »

I quote "Remember, if the spark plug cover is L-shaped, it's a 20XE or C20XE even if it says ecotec!"

SO YOUR SAYING EVEN IF THE COVER SAYS "ECOTEC" IT MAY NOT BE???? :P
how can i tell?

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2009, 16:30:49 PM »
I quote "Remember, if the spark plug cover is L-shaped, it's a 20XE or C20XE even if it says ecotec!"

SO YOUR SAYING EVEN IF THE COVER SAYS "ECOTEC" IT MAY NOT BE???? :P
how can i tell?

Ecotec = always a straight spark plug cover

XE or LET = L-shaped spark plug cover, later ones say "ecotec" on them to fit in with the rest of the vauxhall range!

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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2009, 16:51:51 PM »
my luck it will be the worst 1 lol
k no prob :) ill get a wee look at her n a wee pic up :)

seen this also..

Quite simple, if its an Ecotec, it will say "Ecotec" across the top of the engine



If its a redtop. it will have a red L-shape plug cover on it that says "Vauxhall"...(or Opel)


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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2009, 19:16:37 PM »
The first pic is the first 2.0 16v ecotec (x20xev) engine, the second pic is not a redtop! it's a c20let turbo.

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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2009, 19:22:37 PM »
Quite simple, if its an Ecotec, it will say "Ecotec" across the top of the engine

No, your Forum name is Teabag, are you one of these sir?


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« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2009, 19:37:59 PM »
Close richie, more like this


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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2009, 00:13:39 AM »
Quite simple, if its an Ecotec, it will say "Ecotec" across the top of the engine

No no no no no no NO

L-shaped = XE or LET
Straight = X20XEV "ecotec"

Example:


NOT an ecotec!
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2009, 00:30:53 AM »
No no no no no no NO

L-shaped = XE or LET
Straight = X20XEV "ecotec"

Example:


NOT an ecotec!

Should that read "NOT an Ecotec?"

I assume this pic is a late LET.  i.e. it's obviously not a C20XE 'Redtop', but it's got an L-shaped plug cover so, if you're right, it's not an X20XEV 'Ecotec' either.  The only other alternative is an 'Ecotec' LET...  Is that right?

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« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2009, 00:44:36 AM »
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I assume this pic is a late LET.
The clue is in the Turbo on the front.

First time I have seen it on a late LET; I have only seen the black Ecotec 'L' on the C20XE.
Easy enough for anyone into cosmetic engine bay's to swap over though.

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« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2009, 00:54:21 AM »
The clue is in the Turbo on the front.

First time I have seen it on a late LET; I have only seen the black Ecotec 'L' on the C20XE.
Easy enough for anyone into cosmetic engine bay's to swap over though.

Yes.  The point I was making was that late LETs also appear to be badged 'Ecotec', if this was a typical example (and I assume that they also have the EGR valve to reduce emissions.  Your comment suggests that it wasn't.  ???

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« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2009, 00:58:59 AM »
No C20LET has an EGR. The ecotec branding was purely cosmetic.
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2009, 01:03:41 AM »
No C20LET has an EGR. The ecotec branding was purely cosmetic.

Is that because the Turbo produces lower emission standards than the N/A 16v, so it didn't need an EGR to do so?  I should have thought that ramming more fuel & air mix into an engine would produce higher emissions...  ???

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« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2009, 01:06:26 AM »
Is that because the Turbo produces lower emission standards than the N/A 16v, so it didn't need an EGR to do so?  I should have thought that ramming more fuel & air mix into an engine would produce higher emissions...  ???
Designed before EURO2 emissions. Euro1 for that matter.

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2009, 01:06:41 AM »
Everyone seems to be over-complicating this issue.

If it's L-shaped, it's an XE or LET (even if it says ecotec)
If it's straight, it's an ecotec (X20XEV)

Go by the shape of the spark plug cover, it's the most obvious thing when you open a bonnet.

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2009, 01:17:30 AM »
Designed before EURO2 emissions. Euro1 for that matter.

But didn't all new engines have to meet lower emission standards from around 1993?

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« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2009, 01:24:18 AM »
But didn't all new engines have to meet lower emission standards from around 1993?
euro2 was 1996.
Goodbye LET/ XE. :'(
Hello Ecotec..  8)

1993 ( more precisely 1992) was Euro1.
This heralded the introduction of the catalytic converter hence 20XE became C20XE. The LET wasn't sold without a cat though ( and I don't think the 20XE was fitted in the Calibra either )

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« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2009, 01:45:22 AM »
euro2 was 1996.
Goodbye LET/ XE. :'(
Hello Ecotec..  8)
I didn't realise that there weren't any LETs after 1996.

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1993 ( more precisely 1992) was Euro1.
This heralded the introduction of the catalytic converter hence 20XE became C20XE. The LET wasn't sold without a cat though ( and I don't think the 20XE was fitted in the Calibra either )

I'm confused?  Early Calibras didn't have Catalytic converters.  So what engine was fitted in the pre-1992/pre-CAT/'Redtop' 16v Calibras, if it wasn't the 20XE?  I thought that the 'Redtop' WAS the non-CAT C20XE and that the X20XEV 'Ecotec' had the CAT & EGR.  Otherwise:
  • 20XE - 16v engine (150bhp?)
  • Pre-1993: C20XE - 16v engine with CAT to meet Euro 1 (150bhp?)
  • 1993 on: X20XEV - 16v engine with CAT & EGR to meet Euro 2 (134bhp)
If so this doesn't make sense, because it suggests that the CAT made no difference to the power.  In which case, what would be the point of de-catting?

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« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2009, 03:34:56 AM »
First off, let us drop the utterly misguided moniker 'redtop' from the discussion; save that for the kiddiwinks with their zorsts & cones. In any proper engine discussion the use of that description only serves to confuse.

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I didn't realise that there weren't any LETs after 1996.
??? And what made you erroneously start thinking there were?

Tis quite easy really. First came the 20XE. NO cat, 156ps
For impending Euro1, this was tweaked by having a CAT  + Motronic 2.5, a closed loop ( lambda running) ecu, fitted. This engine is the C20XE, 150ps. The Turbo version, C20LET,204ps, followed in 1992.

GM , like most others, changed over to Cat engines well before the deadline for Euro1. AFAIK, the Calibra was never fitted with the 20XE; however legally you can remove the Cat on pre-Aug 1992 cars.

Euro2 had to be implemented by the end of 1996. GM replaced the brilliant C20XE with the pathetic X20XEV,136ps to meet that emission standard. Naturally the C20LET was dropped, it's eventual replacement being the Z20LET( with variations) which was never fitted in the Calibra.

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2009, 10:21:33 AM »
well to end the fuss, mine is a sh*tty ecotec :( lol it has the straight black cover (no L shape)

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« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2009, 17:14:26 PM »
First off, let us drop the utterly misguided moniker 'redtop' from the discussion; save that for the kiddiwinks with their zorsts & cones. In any proper engine discussion the use of that description only serves to confuse.
 ??? And what made you erroneously start thinking there were?

You'll note that, when I use the name, I usually include the engine designation as well, to avoid any confusion.  However, 'Redtop' is frequently used (by others) without the engine designation, so I use both to link the designation to the description (of the engine that usually, if not always, had the red insert).

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Tis quite easy really. First came the 20XE. NO cat, 156ps

...but this is the engine that you said:

I don't think the 20XE was fitted in the Calibra either

I believe that the first Calibras were being manufactured in 1988(?), and introduced to the UK in 1989(?).  So, if they didn't have the 156bhp 20XE engine, what engine were they fitted with, if they didn't have to comply with Euro1 until 1992/3?  Or did they only have the C20NE 8v engine before the C20XE was introduced?

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For impending Euro1, this was tweaked by having a CAT  + Motronic 2.5, a closed loop ( lambda running) ecu, fitted. This engine is the C20XE, 150ps. The Turbo version, C20LET,204ps, followed in 1992.

GM , like most others, changed over to Cat engines well before the deadline for Euro1. AFAIK, the Calibra was never fitted with the 20XE; however legally you can remove the Cat on pre-Aug 1992 cars.

...so the C20XE was fitted in anticipation of the Euro1 regulations?

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Euro2 had to be implemented by the end of 1996. GM replaced the brilliant C20XE with the pathetic X20XEV,136ps to meet that emission standard. Naturally the C20LET was dropped, it's eventual replacement being the Z20LET( with variations) which was never fitted in the Calibra.

I didn't think that I was confused about the straight or L-shaped insert - until I read:

well to end the fuss, mine is a sh*tty ecotec :( lol it has the straight black cover (no L shape)











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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2009, 17:23:47 PM »
my old h reg calibra was a 20xe.
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« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2009, 17:27:41 PM »
my old h reg calibra was a 20xe.

Aha.  So it was fitted to the very early Calibras...

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« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2009, 17:43:33 PM »
Aha.  So it was fitted to the very early Calibras...
yep...it was a pain to get bits for....i wanted a afm but i couldn't find one anywhere, it was the type with the adjuster screw on it....but i think the changed that when the started using the cat ive no idea why though?
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2009, 22:56:51 PM »
my old h reg calibra was a 20xe.

You sure mate?

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« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2009, 23:00:14 PM »
You sure mate?

No lambda?
about 80% sure...the only cars i could of got the afm from was the cavs and old astras
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« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2009, 23:00:56 PM »
Ah fair enough. I see no reason why they wouldn't use the 20XE if it was in Astras on the same year.

Come to think of it, I had a H-plate XE Calibra... maybe that had one.
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« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2009, 23:50:23 PM »
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about 80% sure...the only cars i could of got the afm from was the cavs and old astras
Has nowt to do with AFM.

Did you have a lambda sensor & cat fitted?

I haven't got a copy of the EPC on this laptop so I can't verify but I've never come across a 20XE in a Calibra. MrC, what is the code on yur ecu?

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However, 'Redtop' is frequently used (by others) without the engine designation, so I use both to link the designation to the description (of the engine that usually, if not always, had the red insert).
From time to time I attempt to correct it's meaningless usage but with each new wave of user there is more water to push uphill. It get's worse; now some clowns are starting to use it to describe the LET too, sob sob  :( 8)

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2009, 00:15:59 AM »
From time to time I attempt to correct it's meaningless usage but with each new wave of user there is more water to push uphill. It get's worse; now some clowns are starting to use it to describe the LET too, sob sob  :( 8)

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2009, 08:53:25 AM »
Has nowt to do with AFM.

Did you have a lambda sensor & cat fitted?

I haven't got a copy of the EPC on this laptop so I can't verify but I've never come across a 20XE in a Calibra. MrC, what is the code on yur ecu?
From time to time I attempt to correct it's meaningless usage but with each new wave of user there is more water to push uphill. It get's worse; now some clowns are starting to use it to describe the LET too, sob sob  :( 8)
i cant remember it was a few years ago and i didnt know any thing about engines back then...but i know i had to change the loom and ecu and and all other bits and bobs and that was like for like swap.
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2009, 00:05:44 AM »
I'm with you on that man.

Maybe the mods should swear-filter the word?
I suppose it does have uses on the Troubleshooting & Tuning threads; enabling one to easily seperate the wheat from the chaff.

No need to look back through a users posts to establish credibility, tosh like 'Get a Redtop and stick a cone on it' etc is damning enough, lol.

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #44 on: July 24, 2009, 03:44:46 AM »
Hi there,

Just done an engine swap on my Calibra. Both engines came from 92 models and are early-ish C20XEs, with Motronic 2.5 ECUs. The swap itself was done with minimal fuss but unfortunately I only found this forum after the swap was done and did not use the donor ECU. When we went to start the car, it started without a problem but then after it revs to a certain point it starts to misfire and sounds like its running on 2 or 3 cylinders. Double checked that all the wiring was fine, that there was spark and did a fuel pressure test which was all fine. Air flow was also fine. Wanted to try and swap the ECUs over but the mechanic has already had the donor car taken away without removing its ECU and the scrap yard says its crushed and in China by now. Did the paperclip test and keep coming up with code 16 Knock signal circuit no change in voltage. Changed the knock sensor as I know that a faulty one can retard the timing. No effect. Not getting a crank sensor error but my tacho seems to be going haywire so was thinking maybe it could be faulty or not sitting at 90 degrees, but the auto electrician says he doesnt think so and hasnt bothered to check it. He is convinced the ECU doesnt match up with the engine. I know that between 91 and 93 the C20XE Calibras were fitted with 3 or 4 different Motronic 2.5 units. If the units from the donor car and the current car do in fact have different part numbers, can the ECU i have be re-programmed or something similar to be usable with the donor engine? Any help would be appreciated. Am I doomed to buying a new ECU?????

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #45 on: July 24, 2009, 08:42:57 AM »
the only problem i have ever had with swapping engines was when i tried to use the old xe's ecu to run a newer xe engine..

tbh without looking at it and hearing the problem there is nothing i can help with, but im sure a load of random posts will follow mine lol, if it was running fine when you first swapped the engine then i would asume this would be a sensor problem..unless you have unplugged the ecu with the batt still connected?
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2009, 09:23:33 AM »
Thanks for the post. Not sure what the mechanic did when he took the engine out... Have since brought the car home from the auto electrician and changed that crank sensor they wouldnt change. It did make a bit of a difference but the problem was still there. Then BINGO. Changed the distributor and started running perfectly. :).

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #47 on: January 25, 2010, 13:43:12 PM »
hey, im planning on swapping my c20ne for a c20xe. this will be my first engine swap, so i was wondering what all should i look for when buying the c20xe? i know it needs to have: engine, gearbox, ecu, and loom. is there anything else i should make sure comes with it before i buy one? any help would be great. thanks

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2010, 14:17:35 PM »
hey, im planning on swapping my c20ne for a c20xe. this will be my first engine swap, so i was wondering what all should i look for when buying the c20xe? i know it needs to have: engine, gearbox, ecu, and loom. is there anything else i should make sure comes with it before i buy one? any help would be great. thanks

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2010, 20:43:34 PM »
will the headers and/or cat match up? or am i going to have to buy new exhaust set up? has anyone done the c20ne to c20xe swap that can kind of give me a rough walk through and what to expect as its going to be my first and ill prolly be doing it myself. any and all help is much appreciated. thank you

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2010, 22:13:57 PM »
will the headers and/or cat match up? or am i going to have to buy new exhaust set up? has anyone done the c20ne to c20xe swap that can kind of give me a rough walk through and what to expect as its going to be my first and ill prolly be doing it myself. any and all help is much appreciated. thank you

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2010, 15:33:21 PM »
Hi guys,

got a question, the guide cays the 8v(c20ne) and the 16v(xev) driveshafts are the same, does that mean the cv's are the same inner and outer? wot about discs and calipers are the 8v and 16v the same. any help would be appreciated.

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2010, 15:50:12 PM »
Hi guys,

got a question, the guide cays the 8v(c20ne) and the 16v(xev) driveshafts are the same, does that mean the cv's are the same inner and outer? wot about discs and calipers are the 8v and 16v the same. any help would be appreciated.

Cheers Steve

i cant talk for the eco, but i have swapped shafts between the ne and the xe before, and exhausts.
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2010, 16:04:47 PM »
Discs, calipers are the same between those two AFAIK. Different on the V6 and Turbo.
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2010, 17:53:20 PM »
Discs, calipers are the same between those two AFAIK. Different on the V6 and Turbo.

As far as I know:

Early V6 and turbo = 284mm 5-stud
Late V6 and turbo = 288mm 5-stud
Every other Calibra = 256mm 4-stud
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