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Offline Dave

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Help choosing tools
« on: September 08, 2010, 14:10:49 PM »

Basically I have a few items that I am watching on the bay at the moment, but just want to be sure that they are the right tools that I will be needing to help rebuild my engine when the chance arises.

These are the items I am watching, but do they seem too cheap to be the genuine items?

Draper cam locking tool
http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270492794507&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Sealey Breaker Bar
http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120559654344&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Are Sealey any good? As to be honest, I haven't heard of them..... Also is the 1/2" socket the right size for the Star shaped heads I will need for the head bolts?

And lastly, can anybody reccomend me a decent yet not overly priced Torque wrench that will handle the majority of jobs I am ever likely to do an a car.....

Cheers,

Dave
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2010, 14:46:54 PM »
Not sure why you'd want a breaker bar for the head bolts, slight overkill there & a big danger of over tightning with that. Depends what drive the tx-star sockets are, are they 1/2" or 3/8" drive? I think my draper ones are 3/8".

Just use whatever ratchet goes with the tx-star sockets & get a torque wrench to match. You won't pay more than £20 for a Draper one but could still get a reasonable one for less.

I've got 1/2" & 3/8" torque wrenches & that's pretty much all you'll ever need.
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2010, 14:56:13 PM »
Quote from: DanSE4 on September 08, 2010, 14:46:54 PM
Not sure why you'd want a breaker bar for the head bolts, slight overkill there & a big danger of over tightning with that. Depends what drive the tx-star sockets are, are they 1/2" or 3/8" drive? I think my draper ones are 3/8".

Just use whatever ratchet goes with the tx-star sockets & get a torque wrench to match. You won't pay more than £20 for a Draper one but could still get a reasonable one for less.

I've got 1/2" & 3/8" torque wrenches & that's pretty much all you'll ever need.

thats the thing DanBastardisedHybridCali bra, I have never understood the difference between 1/2 inch and 3/8.

I thing the head bolts use either E50 or T50?
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2010, 15:00:18 PM »
No breaker bar, just a 1/2 torque wrench and preferrably 1/2 torx bits.

You will need new head bolts aswell.
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2010, 15:02:18 PM »
thanks shifty, yeah I know i need new headbolts, timing belt, gaskets etc etc etc, thats all to come too, just wanna get the tools first, as i can just about some of them....
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2010, 15:05:59 PM »
Quote from: Dave on September 08, 2010, 14:56:13 PM
I have never understood the difference between 1/2 inch and 3/8.

It's the size of the bit that fits into the sockets. 1/2" is bigger than 3/8".

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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2010, 15:08:00 PM »
Quote from: Dave on September 08, 2010, 14:56:13 PM
thats the thing DanBastardisedHybridCali bra, I have never understood the difference between 1/2 inch and 3/8.

1/2" and 3/8" is the size of the connector on the wrench head that goes into the socket/bit.

Buy the 1/2" version as you need to put alot of torque into the head bolts and you might find the 3/8" bits will crack under the strain.
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2010, 15:08:18 PM »
f*ck you DanBastardisedHybridCali bra, mine was more informative ;D
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2010, 15:08:52 PM »
sweet, cheers for that, I will keep that in mind :D
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2010, 15:11:33 PM »
Also note that I refered to Torx as TX-Star.

They're the same thing except the Draper stuff calls it TX-Star (that's what I have) & others call it Torx. Don't get confused, they're the same depending on what tools you're using.

And f*ck you back Shifty, mine was swift & to the point! :P
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2010, 15:14:54 PM »
helpful

Quote from: DanSE4 on September 08, 2010, 15:05:59 PM
It's the size of the bit that fits into the sockets. 1/2" is bigger than 3/8".


Very helpful
Quote from: Sh!fty on September 08, 2010, 15:08:00 PM
1/2" and 3/8" is the size of the connector on the wrench head that goes into the socket/bit.

Buy the 1/2" version as you need to put alot of torque into the head bolts and you might find the 3/8" bits will crack under the strain.


Helpful again

Quote from: DanSE4 on September 08, 2010, 15:11:33 PM
Also note that I refered to Torx as TX-Star.

They're the same thing except the Draper stuff calls it TX-Star (that's what I have) & others call it Torx. Don't get confused, they're the same depending on what tools you're using.

And f*ck you back Shifty, mine was swift & to the point! :P

DanBastardisedHybridCali bra 2
Shifty 1

lol :P although to be fair, Shifty's bit in bold was most informative :)
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2010, 15:15:20 PM »
Halfords sell a set of 7 male torx bits including sizes: T20, T25,T30,T40,T45,T50,T55 for £22.99, one of the best things I ever bought from that shithole.

Quote from: DanSE4 on September 08, 2010, 15:11:33 PM
And f*ck you back Shifty, mine was swift & to the point! :P

DanBastardisedHybridCali bra we are helping out a retard here remember? I understood you but our Dave would be down halford asking for a wrench that's 1/2" long!! ;D

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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2010, 15:16:35 PM »
Quote from: Dave on September 08, 2010, 15:14:54 PM
although to be fair, Shifty's bit in bold was most informative :)

and worth 2 points, plus another point for helping you in the first place and then a point each for me and DanBastardisedHybridCali bra spit roasting your mother 8)

I make that 3-3 :P
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2010, 15:18:02 PM »
Thread hi-jack FTMFW!! 8)

High 5 Danny boy ;D
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2010, 15:21:21 PM »
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2010, 15:23:33 PM »
Quote from: Sh!fty on September 08, 2010, 15:15:20 PM
Halfords sell a set of 7 male torx bits including sizes: T20, T25,T30,T40,T45,T50,T55 for £22.99, one of the best things I ever bought from that shithole.

DanBastardisedHybridCali bra we are helping out a retard here remember? I understood you but our Dave would be down halford asking for a wrench that's 1/2" long!! ;D


Thanks for that one too Shifto! Although I take offence to being called a retard, especially with the likes of Simone on the site!

And for the record I wouldnt ask for a 1/2" long ratchet, I'm not that daft
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2010, 15:24:59 PM »
Quote from: Sh!fty on September 08, 2010, 15:18:02 PM
Thread hi-jack FTMFW!! 8)

High 5 Danny boy ;D

I concur :)

Don't often see a tool get hi-jacked  ;D
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2010, 15:27:59 PM »
Quote from: Dave on September 08, 2010, 15:23:33 PM
Thanks for that one too Shifto! Although I take offence to being called a retard, especially with the likes of Simone on the site!

Quote from: Sh!fty on September 08, 2010, 15:15:20 PM
DanBastardisedHybridCalibra we are helping out an ICP here remember?

Is that better?

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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2010, 15:30:23 PM »
LOL Robbo and DanBastardisedHybridCali bra :D

Cheer up Dave, were only jesting ::) :P
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Re: Help choosing tools
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2010, 15:34:53 PM »
Quote from: DanSE4 on September 08, 2010, 15:27:59 PM
Is that better?



Much better lol

Yeah i know shifty :P

the bitch of a customer here though is a f***ing retard, feel like kicking her peg leg out from under her. I swear, if she f***ing snaps at me again she will regret it.
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