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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2009, 22:50:23 PM »
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about 80% sure...the only cars i could of got the afm from was the cavs and old astras
Has nowt to do with AFM.

Did you have a lambda sensor & cat fitted?

I haven't got a copy of the EPC on this laptop so I can't verify but I've never come across a 20XE in a Calibra. MrC, what is the code on yur ecu?

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However, 'Redtop' is frequently used (by others) without the engine designation, so I use both to link the designation to the description (of the engine that usually, if not always, had the red insert).
From time to time I attempt to correct it's meaningless usage but with each new wave of user there is more water to push uphill. It get's worse; now some clowns are starting to use it to describe the LET too, sob sob  :( 8)
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2009, 23:15:59 PM »
Quote from: garyb on April 26, 2009, 22:50:23 PM
From time to time I attempt to correct it's meaningless usage but with each new wave of user there is more water to push uphill. It get's worse; now some clowns are starting to use it to describe the LET too, sob sob  :( 8)

I'm with you on that man.

Maybe the mods should swear-filter the word?
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2009, 07:53:25 AM »
Quote from: garyb on April 26, 2009, 22:50:23 PM
Has nowt to do with AFM.

Did you have a lambda sensor & cat fitted?

I haven't got a copy of the EPC on this laptop so I can't verify but I've never come across a 20XE in a Calibra. MrC, what is the code on yur ecu?
From time to time I attempt to correct it's meaningless usage but with each new wave of user there is more water to push uphill. It get's worse; now some clowns are starting to use it to describe the LET too, sob sob  :( 8)
i cant remember it was a few years ago and i didnt know any thing about engines back then...but i know i had to change the loom and ecu and and all other bits and bobs and that was like for like swap.
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2009, 23:05:44 PM »
Quote from: Chavtastic on April 26, 2009, 23:15:59 PM
I'm with you on that man.

Maybe the mods should swear-filter the word?
I suppose it does have uses on the Troubleshooting & Tuning threads; enabling one to easily seperate the wheat from the chaff.

No need to look back through a users posts to establish credibility, tosh like 'Get a Redtop and stick a cone on it' etc is damning enough, lol.
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #44 on: July 24, 2009, 02:44:46 AM »
Hi there,

Just done an engine swap on my Calibra. Both engines came from 92 models and are early-ish C20XEs, with Motronic 2.5 ECUs. The swap itself was done with minimal fuss but unfortunately I only found this forum after the swap was done and did not use the donor ECU. When we went to start the car, it started without a problem but then after it revs to a certain point it starts to misfire and sounds like its running on 2 or 3 cylinders. Double checked that all the wiring was fine, that there was spark and did a fuel pressure test which was all fine. Air flow was also fine. Wanted to try and swap the ECUs over but the mechanic has already had the donor car taken away without removing its ECU and the scrap yard says its crushed and in China by now. Did the paperclip test and keep coming up with code 16 Knock signal circuit no change in voltage. Changed the knock sensor as I know that a faulty one can retard the timing. No effect. Not getting a crank sensor error but my tacho seems to be going haywire so was thinking maybe it could be faulty or not sitting at 90 degrees, but the auto electrician says he doesnt think so and hasnt bothered to check it. He is convinced the ECU doesnt match up with the engine. I know that between 91 and 93 the C20XE Calibras were fitted with 3 or 4 different Motronic 2.5 units. If the units from the donor car and the current car do in fact have different part numbers, can the ECU i have be re-programmed or something similar to be usable with the donor engine? Any help would be appreciated. Am I doomed to buying a new ECU?????

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #45 on: July 24, 2009, 07:42:57 AM »
the only problem i have ever had with swapping engines was when i tried to use the old xe's ecu to run a newer xe engine..

tbh without looking at it and hearing the problem there is nothing i can help with, but im sure a load of random posts will follow mine lol, if it was running fine when you first swapped the engine then i would asume this would be a sensor problem..unless you have unplugged the ecu with the batt still connected?
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2009, 08:23:33 AM »
Thanks for the post. Not sure what the mechanic did when he took the engine out... Have since brought the car home from the auto electrician and changed that crank sensor they wouldnt change. It did make a bit of a difference but the problem was still there. Then BINGO. Changed the distributor and started running perfectly. :).
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #47 on: January 25, 2010, 12:43:12 PM »
hey, im planning on swapping my c20ne for a c20xe. this will be my first engine swap, so i was wondering what all should i look for when buying the c20xe? i know it needs to have: engine, gearbox, ecu, and loom. is there anything else i should make sure comes with it before i buy one? any help would be great. thanks
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2010, 13:17:35 PM »
Quote from: jsanders608 on January 25, 2010, 12:43:12 PM
hey, im planning on swapping my c20ne for a c20xe. this will be my first engine swap, so i was wondering what all should i look for when buying the c20xe? i know it needs to have: engine, gearbox, ecu, and loom. is there anything else i should make sure comes with it before i buy one? any help would be great. thanks

Throttle cable

Buy an engine you can see running, or ideally drive before buying
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2010, 19:43:34 PM »
will the headers and/or cat match up? or am i going to have to buy new exhaust set up? has anyone done the c20ne to c20xe swap that can kind of give me a rough walk through and what to expect as its going to be my first and ill prolly be doing it myself. any and all help is much appreciated. thank you
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2010, 21:13:57 PM »
Quote from: jsanders608 on January 26, 2010, 19:43:34 PM
will the headers and/or cat match up? or am i going to have to buy new exhaust set up? has anyone done the c20ne to c20xe swap that can kind of give me a rough walk through and what to expect as its going to be my first and ill prolly be doing it myself. any and all help is much appreciated. thank you

The header tanks are identical on all 4cyl Calibras as far as I'm aware

Get as much of the XE exhaust as possible. Mating it up should be a bolt-on job or a very easy cut/weld for an exhaust centre
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2010, 14:33:21 PM »
Hi guys,

got a question, the guide cays the 8v(c20ne) and the 16v(xev) driveshafts are the same, does that mean the cv's are the same inner and outer? wot about discs and calipers are the 8v and 16v the same. any help would be appreciated.

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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2010, 14:50:12 PM »
Quote from: Sturge on April 20, 2010, 14:33:21 PM
Hi guys,

got a question, the guide cays the 8v(c20ne) and the 16v(xev) driveshafts are the same, does that mean the cv's are the same inner and outer? wot about discs and calipers are the 8v and 16v the same. any help would be appreciated.

Cheers Steve

i cant talk for the eco, but i have swapped shafts between the ne and the xe before, and exhausts.
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2010, 15:04:47 PM »
Discs, calipers are the same between those two AFAIK. Different on the V6 and Turbo.
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Re: How to guide: Calibra engine swaps
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2010, 16:53:20 PM »
Quote from: ALZ1307 on April 20, 2010, 15:04:47 PM
Discs, calipers are the same between those two AFAIK. Different on the V6 and Turbo.

As far as I know:

Early V6 and turbo = 284mm 5-stud
Late V6 and turbo = 288mm 5-stud
Every other Calibra = 256mm 4-stud
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