Author Topic: Steering and suspension problem.  (Read 9943 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline HOMMER

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • Posts: 16
  • Respect 0
  • Gender: Male
    • Cally 2.0i 8v
Steering and suspension problem.
« on: May 03, 2016, 17:44:41 PM »
Hello everyone. This is my first posting. I have been having an interesting problem with the steering and suspension on my c20ne. My steering
locks up at the one o'clock position as i commence turning right. Worst when i brake into a right hand bend. If i accelerate as i turn, no problem. The issue is temperamental, which means i still have not found the fault after removing the strut  for the 9th time.  My thoughts lead me to look at the strut mount. Bearing in mind, i have a new steering rack, new wishbones, new TRE's. New anti roll bar links. Now( today) i have fitted
New top mount, new bearing, new spring, new spring seat and new spring seat rubber. I even gave the strut a fresh coat of paint!
And the problem is still there.....Has anyone come across a similar issue or a stick of dynamite. Regards HOMMER.

Offline ALZ1307

  • * ClubCalibra VIP *
  • Trade Count: (6)
  • *
  • Posts: 26574
  • Respect 11
  • Gender: Female
    • Cally 2.5i v6
Re: Steering and suspension problem.
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2016, 18:41:49 PM »
Air in your power steering?
Lewis Hamilton said that winning his first race felt better than having sex. Kimi's reply to that was, Maybe he never had sex.

Offline HOMMER

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • Posts: 16
  • Respect 0
  • Gender: Male
    • Cally 2.0i 8v
Re: Steering and suspension problem.
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2016, 19:25:17 PM »
Thanks for the reply. No, the rack is fine. There is a definite clunk transmitted from the area of the o/s strut. I've had the strut supported while the steering wheel is rocked. Also, moving the spring rubber around past the 90 degree setting, moves the problem further into the turn.

Offline agw9262

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Calibra Rookie
  • Posts: 343
  • Respect 4
  • Gender: Male
    • Cally 2.5i v6
Steering and suspension problem.
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2016, 20:01:55 PM »
I'm going to guess at failed steering component either tie rod, ball joint or steering knuckle. Seemed like you've change the tie rods/ball joints? (assuming that's your TRE) then knuckle is all that's left that I can think of.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline HOMMER

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • Posts: 16
  • Respect 0
  • Gender: Male
    • Cally 2.0i 8v
Re: Steering and suspension problem.
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2016, 21:12:19 PM »
All the joints have been renewed. I'm thinking the strut is somehow catching the tunnel and possible causes.

Offline agw9262

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Calibra Rookie
  • Posts: 343
  • Respect 4
  • Gender: Male
    • Cally 2.5i v6
Re: Steering and suspension problem.
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2016, 21:19:52 PM »
Might have missed it in your original posts but did you check/change the knuckle (part 12 here: http://ecat24.com/opel/catalog/part/1/11/463/4389/4695,4690/ ) - although rare for them to fail, when they do, they produce clunk sounds and limit/resist steering just like you describe. Rotating the rubber changing the point at which you get a clunk also indicates possible failure since it changes the pressure point on the joint. Might be worth a closer look if you haven't.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline HOMMER

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • Posts: 16
  • Respect 0
  • Gender: Male
    • Cally 2.0i 8v
Re: Steering and suspension problem.
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2016, 22:22:35 PM »
Yes, I did change the knuckle. I thought along those lines myself. I also renewed lower ball joint, top mount and bearing, with no change to the problem. I managed to source spring rubber and seat, with the addition of new shock and spring, fitted today. Again, no change to the problem. The Steering rack, I fitted  at Christmas. It's been fine until recently. I have also checked the column joint. Before today, I thought the rubber spring seat was worn and throwing the spring out. The new one, I discovered, to be the same sponginess as the old one. I'm thinking the strut is catching the tunnel somehow. I'm also wondering if the assembly info I have is correct when it states the spring rubber is set to 90 degree's from the end of the spring?

Offline HOMMER

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • Posts: 16
  • Respect 0
  • Gender: Male
    • Cally 2.0i 8v
Re: Steering and suspension problem.
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2016, 23:09:02 PM »
Ah, Just looked at your drawing. No, that's the only part I haven't changed. Thing is, this issue has been getting progressively worst. Remember, it's a temperamental problem. A bent or damaged strut would cause a permanent issue. I did wonder if she had been fitted with an odd strut. So I compared them together. They looked ok. I thought the wishbone might have been damaged. It's less than a year old and looks fine. No play on the bushes. The only issue I discovered was the spring seat set at 180. I'm going to adjust the new seat to the old position, give that a try.

Offline agw9262

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Calibra Rookie
  • Posts: 343
  • Respect 4
  • Gender: Male
    • Cally 2.5i v6
Re: Steering and suspension problem.
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2016, 05:42:40 AM »
What a pain, but yes you're right, would expect a more permanent problem. Keep us posted, it's intriguing....


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline agw9262

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Calibra Rookie
  • Posts: 343
  • Respect 4
  • Gender: Male
    • Cally 2.5i v6
Re: Steering and suspension problem.
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2016, 05:43:57 AM »
Might also be worth posting on vauxhallownersnetwork.co .uk if you haven't already, a lot more active mechanics on there who might have more suggestions


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline chrisw

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Calibra Rookie
  • Posts: 453
  • Respect 2
  • Gender: Male
    • Cally 2.5i v6
Re: Steering and suspension problem.
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2016, 12:34:29 PM »
I had a similar(ish) problem when driving, the problem turned out to be the CV joint was intermittenly locking up even when driving in a stright line. As the angle of the locked joint moved as the wheels turned it violently pulled the car to the left .
Could be something similar for you if everything else has been changed.
www.cogsandcrags.co.uk
A Diary of my latest climbing and Biking outings!

Offline agw9262

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Calibra Rookie
  • Posts: 343
  • Respect 4
  • Gender: Male
    • Cally 2.5i v6
Re: Steering and suspension problem.
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2016, 19:14:55 PM »
Couple more things occurred to me today - does this only happen during motion or when at standstill too? If at standstill, did you try jacking it up and seeing if that solves the problem? I only in motion - Cv joint?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline HOMMER

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • Posts: 16
  • Respect 0
  • Gender: Male
    • Cally 2.0i 8v
Re: Steering and suspension problem.
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2016, 13:00:50 PM »
I checked the CVJ, the other day. Now, I'm at the stage of taking everything off, both sides, and looking them over with a microscope.  I'm going to check the wishbones first, and start measuring. Regardless, this weekend I'm under the car again. Wish me luck.

Offline chrisw

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Calibra Rookie
  • Posts: 453
  • Respect 2
  • Gender: Male
    • Cally 2.5i v6
Re: Steering and suspension problem.
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2016, 15:11:51 PM »
What did you do to check the CV joint ?
www.cogsandcrags.co.uk
A Diary of my latest climbing and Biking outings!

Offline HOMMER

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • Posts: 16
  • Respect 0
  • Gender: Male
    • Cally 2.0i 8v
Re: Steering and suspension problem.
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2016, 20:41:49 PM »
Found the issue. The Steering rack. After spending too much time under the car, I could only conclude I had missed something. I discovered the problem by disconnecting the tie rods and rocking the steering wheel. While running the engine at differing rpm and drinking tea. Not the first time I had done this. First time it's happened while the car was level and stationary. Now, its a new rack and hopefully I will have trouble free suspension and steering. And I can work on fixing the rest of the car. Thanks for your input. H.