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Calibra Modifications & Calibra Maintenance => Handling, Suspension and Wheels => Topic started by: markse4 on February 25, 2011, 20:40:27 PM

Title: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: markse4 on February 25, 2011, 20:40:27 PM
Evening all,

Been getting My brothers Cali ready for MOT, all I've got left to do is rear crossmember/subframe bushes.

My question is...With the trailing arm supported can I just undo all three Bolts on the crossmember bracket and change the bush or do I have to remove the whole trailing arm?? 

Cheers  :)
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: zxr2 on February 26, 2011, 14:22:58 PM
when i done mine i supported the crossmember with my axle stand undo the two smaller bolts then the big one in the bush,prise them out using a prybar/large flat head screwdriver . Putting the new ones back in first i cleaned the recess then lubed it with some copper grease to aid pushing them back in. The one thing you must remember when fitting them back in put a block of wood at least 30mm thick between the car underside and the suspension, then bush must be pushed all the way up/into the recess i used a block of wood and my trolley jack to push them in,now getting the bolts back in fit the covering plate back in place screw in the two smaller bolts but don't do them up about halfway will be ok,then fit the main large bolt doing it this way you should have no trouble locating the holes,then just tighten all bolts up evenly together until all done up then torque up the crossmember mounting bracket bolts (65nm) 48lbf ft ,crossmember bush bolt(125nm) 92lbf ft

they will probably look like this when the come out the frightening thing id been driving the car for atleast a year before i changed them  :o

(http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt149/harrysmith62/Image376.jpg)   
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: Gav on February 26, 2011, 14:35:53 PM
f*ck me they're proper f*cked.

They look like they've actually exploded lol
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: zxr2 on February 26, 2011, 14:46:29 PM
f*ck me they're proper f*cked.

They look like they've actually exploded lol

you should have seen my face when the came out thats when i found out why i arse end steering doh lol
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: markse4 on February 26, 2011, 15:09:34 PM
Cheers zxr2! those bushes look absolutely FOOKED!!!

I think we will let the japs keep rear wheel steer,haha.

I will have a crack at it tomoz (sunday) and let you know how I got on  :)
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: zxr2 on February 26, 2011, 15:14:03 PM
Cheers zxr2! those bushes look absolutely FOOKED!!!

I think we will let the japs keep rear wheel steer,haha.

I will have a crack at it tomoz (sunday) and let you know how I got on  :)

no probs thats what we are here for have fun and take your time
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: DanSE4 on February 26, 2011, 15:21:31 PM
I did mine a couple of years ago but I had the whole crossmember out at the time so that made life a little easier.

Mine were in a right state as well, it's scary how bad they can get as they're not really something you look at much unless you're intending to do so.
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: markse4 on March 03, 2011, 20:52:40 PM
Only managed to get round to doing the bushes today....Bit of a pain to get out but new ones went in like butter  8)

Pic of the ones I took out:

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/Mark_Holmes1/Photo-0169.jpg)

The actual metal sleeves fell out when I removed the bracket...FOOKED! ha!

Thanks for the Help zxr2, If I could give you karma i would  ;)
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: zxr2 on March 03, 2011, 21:15:14 PM
no probs nice to see you got them sorted me old mucker
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: Blackie on March 03, 2011, 22:21:42 PM
So this will be why the back end feels a little light on some corners then?
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: zxr2 on March 04, 2011, 18:44:23 PM
So this will be why the back end feels a little light on some corners then?

yup mine did ive uprated the rear arb with a 20mm whiteline jobbie nice and flat round corners now
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: Vxlgsi on April 07, 2012, 21:53:56 PM
can anyone tell me if the rear cross member bush is the same on all calibra's?
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: vexorg on April 07, 2012, 23:49:51 PM
yes
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: EddeyDancer on April 08, 2012, 19:45:36 PM
Pic of the ones I took out:

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/Mark_Holmes1/Photo-0169.jpg)

The actual metal sleeves fell out when I removed the bracket...FOOKED! ha!

I don't know how these bushes can possibly get that bad...

When I saw so many guys posting these Rooted Bushes, I went to replace mine, and they were in near new condition...  :o

Corrosion must really hit the UK in a major way...
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: banana man on April 08, 2012, 20:42:54 PM
A lot is to do with the salt that is used in the winter to melt the snow/ice on the road, really eats at the cars
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: Chris7B on April 09, 2012, 16:58:55 PM
Hi Folks,
Did you get uneven wear on the rear tyres before you replaced the bushes? Both of my rear tyres wore really heavily on the inside and had to be replaced. Don't want a repeat so took it to garage for 4 wheel tracking. Rear nearside out of kilter but no adjustment possible on rear suspension ??????? Could it be bush is knackered, bearing gone or what. Have just had all new brake discs and pads etc etc so want to sort it so I can keep car on the road and get me money back.
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: Chris7B on April 09, 2012, 17:11:39 PM
Oh and I forgot to ask, what would you expect to pay for rear bushes to be done? Sadly I don't have knowledge, equipment or time to DIY. :p
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: Vxlgsi on April 10, 2012, 19:09:11 PM
yes

Yes you can tell me or yes they are all the same?
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: tiff_lee on April 10, 2012, 22:42:37 PM
Yes all the same, also same as senator (poss omega) and cav with IRS.

If you really want to splash the cash you can get polyurethane ones, quite expensive from regal, infact you can buy them direct from K-Mac and have them shipped to the UK for less
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: vexorg on April 10, 2012, 23:45:09 PM
I didn't think you got them in poly bushes.

It's unlikely to cause uneven tyre wear. The rear arm bushes are more likely, or lowering the car in any way.
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: tiff_lee on April 11, 2012, 00:20:29 AM
Yeah you can although i'm unable to find a link to the old regal ones at the min
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: tiff_lee on April 11, 2012, 00:22:43 AM
Would appear the omega owners are using them

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=99170.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=99170.0)
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: Vxlgsi on April 11, 2012, 23:40:57 PM
Yes all the same, also same as senator (poss omega) and cav with IRS.

If you really want to splash the cash you can get polyurethane ones, quite expensive from regal, infact you can buy them direct from K-Mac and have them shipped to the UK for less

Thank you for the info, the car is standard and doesnt really get used so normal ones will do. Autovaux are expensive though at ?24 each + postage  :o

So the hunt begins...
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: zxr2 on April 12, 2012, 02:12:43 AM
I have a spare standard set ill take ?30 inc postage

email sent
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: zxr2 on April 12, 2012, 11:42:22 AM
ive sent a pm hopefully
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: Vxlgsi on April 12, 2012, 12:38:37 PM
Thanks, payment sent for these.  ;D
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: zxr2 on April 12, 2012, 16:24:56 PM
hi ben bushes are in the post i work for royal mail i put the parcel in the Colchester bag you should get them tomorrow or defo saturday again any problems let me know
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: zxr2 on April 14, 2012, 20:22:04 PM
ben have the bushes arrived ?
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: Vxlgsi on April 16, 2012, 18:39:54 PM
recieved thank you very much  ;D
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: sealeysonic on July 23, 2015, 11:31:13 AM
With the powers of Google......I hear by resurrect the thread from the dead lol

As I have to replace my bushes.........but wonder why they are different types....some at £4.95 seem to be the rubber part only and come with two metal inserts .....then some at £6.99 have the metal sleeve on the outside and nothing else....?   
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: vec 160 on July 23, 2015, 21:33:56 PM
With the powers of Google......I hear by resurrect the thread from the dead lol

As I have to replace my bushes.........but wonder why they are different types....some at £4.95 seem to be the rubber part only and come with two metal inserts .....then some at £6.99 have the metal sleeve on the outside and nothing else....?   

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REAR-CROSS-MEMBER-BUSH-FOR-VAUXHALL-CALIBRA-2-0-1990-1998-FSK6355-/331239058098?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3ACalibra&hash=item4d1f62eab2

These are the ones you want for the rear crossmember bushes.. Not cheap
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: sealeysonic on August 06, 2015, 13:54:11 PM
Ordered some.....but a member on another forum said to search for Carlton bushes as there the same part but cheaper at £9 instead of £39!!!

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Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: sealeysonic on August 09, 2015, 18:12:52 PM
Right been down the callycave for a couple of hours....used my trolly jack to press out the remainder of the old bush

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/sealeysonic/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2020.22.43_zpsrtb62bty.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/sealeysonic/media/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2020.22.43_zpsrtb62bty.jpg.html)

came out in three parts....well fell apart more like.

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/sealeysonic/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2021.01.52_zps9ey1ec6j.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/sealeysonic/media/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2021.01.52_zps9ey1ec6j.jpg.html)

Dont ya just love WD40 lol

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/sealeysonic/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2021.02.02_zpskaqlnwac.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/sealeysonic/media/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2021.02.02_zpskaqlnwac.jpg.html)

The new bush....

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/sealeysonic/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2004.40.03_zpszkhs4rly.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/sealeysonic/media/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2004.40.03_zpszkhs4rly.jpg.html)

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/sealeysonic/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2004.39.43_zpsvwggb661.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/sealeysonic/media/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2004.39.43_zpsvwggb661.jpg.html)

And a pic of my hole lol  :twisted:

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/sealeysonic/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2021.04.38_zpsoz4vgt8h.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/sealeysonic/media/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2021.04.38_zpsoz4vgt8h.jpg.html)

Cleaned up and painted....

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/sealeysonic/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2021.11.03_zpse8cffayo.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/sealeysonic/media/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2021.11.03_zpse8cffayo.jpg.html)

A bit of copper grease to help it in...

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/sealeysonic/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2021.14.38_zps2ndxmlmu.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/sealeysonic/media/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2021.14.38_zps2ndxmlmu.jpg.html)

Pushed home with a bit of wood and trolley jack..

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/sealeysonic/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2021.21.52_zpsuplkfx5r.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/sealeysonic/media/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2021.21.52_zpsuplkfx5r.jpg.html)

So job done.......naa still can not get the main bolt to locate right...I`ll have another go asap....mabe even drop the whole lot.As you can see the hole for the bolt is off centre......

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/sealeysonic/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2021.04.38_zpsoz4vgt8h.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/sealeysonic/media/Calibra%20Se6/2011-04-21%2021.04.38_zpsoz4vgt8h.jpg.html)

So if i drag the car out and turn it around n push it back in so the rear end is near the garage door I`ll get better access etc.
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: ALZ1307 on August 10, 2015, 20:40:30 PM
Running yet?  ;D
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: sealeysonic on August 10, 2015, 20:48:27 PM
Running yet?  ;D

Nope....not yet....if i get it running....the rust work would stop as i would want it mot`ed etc....while its off the road It will be worked on lol
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: ALZ1307 on August 10, 2015, 20:55:40 PM
Nope....not yet....if i get it running....the rust work would stop as i would want it mot`ed etc....while its off the road It will be worked on lol

If it was running it wouldn't get chance to rust away LOL
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: sealeysonic on August 11, 2015, 19:06:13 PM
Don't make me swear women!  :-D lol

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Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: ALZ1307 on August 11, 2015, 19:58:24 PM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: catalin1 on March 14, 2016, 15:24:07 PM
Hi, i have a question, can you tell me if someone tried to use Opel omega rear bush (the big ones) into a Opel Calibra? I want to know because Opel Omega rear bushes are less expensive than those from Calibra. These bushes looks similar to me. Thank you!
Title: Re: Rear Crossmember/Subframe bushes
Post by: sealeysonic on March 16, 2016, 10:05:43 AM
Hi, i have a question, can you tell me if someone tried to use Opel omega rear bush (the big ones) into a Opel Calibra? I want to know because Opel Omega rear bushes are less expensive than those from Calibra. These bushes looks similar to me. Thank you!

Calton bushes are the same....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Carlton-Rear-Left-or-Right-Subframe-Bush-/360875775957?fits=Model%3ACarlton&hash=item5405df57d5:g:a7EAAOxy4fVTGHRz