Topic: Rolling Road day (Read 1949 times)

Shifty · « **Reply #20 on:** June 01, 2009, 16:39:34 PM »

Good answers but still pointless.

1) This reason will only result in disappointment.

2) Benchmarking the inevitable fail.

How many XE owners on here have a car pushing out more BHP than a stock LET? How much money would be needed to achieve the same BHP of a stock LET?

How many modified v6's on here are pushing out more than a stock LET?

A dose of reality is good for you sometimes

Quote from: diboor on June 01, 2009, 16:37:51 PM

I just want to see how many of my horsies have escaped

What will that achieve other than pissing you off?

Shifty · « **Reply #21 on:** June 01, 2009, 16:47:28 PM »

J@z, I just want to clarify your perspective on tuning, is a calibra with a non calibra engine still a calibra? If the answer to that is "yes", is a car only defined by its shell? If the answer to that is "no", does this mean you are a fan of calibra engines being put into other cars?

I think you know what i'm getting at.

Nobody on here seems to seriously tune their XE's unless they convert them to turbos and most v6 owners pull the engine out and go straight for the omega v6 engines!!

Just surprised at the lack of tuning that actually goes on with CC.Com yet I'm always seeing "rolling road day" and "supercharging" threads

I think this recession and drop in calibra prices is going to see the rise of the chav calibra owner who put stickers all over the shell and just bolt sh*t onto the bodywork instead of engine tuning $:-\$

calibraboy · « **Reply #22 on:** June 01, 2009, 18:08:26 PM »

Iv'e put a lot of money in to mine iv'e dont the cams the head and a few more things to the car and the last time .I put her on i got 170 and that was before the cams so i want to see what she got now ask vic she was next to me then behind me

Shifty · « **Reply #23 on:** June 01, 2009, 18:12:37 PM »

Quote from: calibraboy on June 01, 2009, 18:08:26 PM

Iv'e put a lot of money in to mine iv'e dont the cams the head and a few more things to the car and the last time .I put her on i got 170 and that was before the cams so i want to see what she got now ask vic she was next to me then behind me

Now that's why you should definately be going to a rolling road, you are a rare member on here with an XE not producing 150bhp or less!

calibraboy · « **Reply #24 on:** June 01, 2009, 18:37:23 PM »

Quote from: §ĦĨFŦŶ ® on June 01, 2009, 18:12:37 PM

Now that's why you should definately be going to a rolling road, you are a rare member on here with an XE not producing 150bhp or less!

If i have a drop in power i will be pissed

Shifty · « **Reply #25 on:** June 01, 2009, 18:47:30 PM »

Quote from: calibraboy on June 01, 2009, 18:37:23 PM

If i have a drop in power i will be pissed

Excuse the pun but its a good learning "curve" if you have lost power. Alot of people buy engine mods that state "gain up to 5bhp" and automatically add that 5bhp to their factory bhp. The trick is to get the right mods and to have it RR'd after any significant mods such as a full sports exhaust fitted or a chip etc. I'm not saying that's what you have done as you're obviously not one of those people.

What mods have you currently done mate?

J@zV6 · « **Reply #26 on:** June 01, 2009, 19:07:14 PM »

Quote from: §ĦĨFŦŶ ® on June 01, 2009, 16:47:28 PM

J@z, I just want to clarify your perspective on tuning, is a calibra with a non calibra engine still a calibra? If the answer to that is "yes", is a car only defined by its shell? If the answer to that is "no", does this mean you are a fan of calibra engines being put into other cars?

I think you know what i'm getting at.

Nobody on here seems to seriously tune their XE's unless they convert them to turbos and most v6 owners pull the engine out and go straight for the omega v6 engines!!

Just surprised at the lack of tuning that actually goes on with CC.Com yet I'm always seeing "rolling road day" and "supercharging" threads

I think this recession and drop in calibra prices is going to see the rise of the chav calibra owner who put stickers all over the shell and just bolt sh*t onto the bodywork instead of engine tuning $:-\$

My persepective on tuning..?

mmm? Well, the fact that I haven't done any tuning on my V6 may give some indication. It's not that I wouldn't like to and don't want a more powerful engine (my 'other car' has 236bhp & 500Nm of torque). My problem is that I don't really think that it is worth spending a lot of money on the Calibra - I know that I would never get it back.

If people want to spend money on their Calibra, it's not wasted, if they get satisfaction out of having a better car, but not because they're likely to get their money back. I know that the V6 will never be as 'tunable' as the Turbo, but I prefer the V6 'grunt', to the out-and-out performance of the Turbo. I am also conscious of the limitations of fwd.

My ideal Calibra would be a 3.2L V6 4x4 cabriolet... but I know that I could buy a much better (but less unique) car, for a lot less than it would cost to build my ideal Calibra.

Shifty · « **Reply #27 on:** June 01, 2009, 19:19:41 PM »

What I was basically getting at J@z was that it seems on alot of other forums including calibra forums, there are alot of tuning threads but it seems to be cosmetic orientated on this site. That's not a bad thing at all but I just noticed that alot of people overhype the 3.0 or 3.2 engine conversions and how superior the XE is to the XEV but there is a severe shortage of XE's with more than 150bhp or 2.5 v6's above 167bhp. Your reasons for not tuning your v6 are sensible IMO but this doesn't indicate your views on tuning with regards to what you personally believe is a "tuned" calibra. Is it people tuning an original calibra engine or are you more for the removal of calibra engines and replacing with other GM engines for the sake of gaining performance? If I was to ever tune a calibra, i'd use the calibra engine range to maintain the calibras originality whereas alot of members just prefer the aesthetics of the calibra but admit that the engines are inferior to other options that are available such as omega engines

Going by your ideal version of a calibra being a...

Quote from: J@zV6 on June 01, 2009, 19:07:14 PM

3.2L V6 4x4 cabriolet

(which I didn't know before now), I can now see that you are more for power gains regardless of where the engine originated at the cost of losing the "originality" of the factory built calibra

J@zV6 · « **Reply #28 on:** June 01, 2009, 19:30:23 PM »

Quote from: §ĦĨFŦŶ ® on June 01, 2009, 19:19:41 PM

Going by your ideal version of a calibra being a...

"3.2L V6 4x4 cabriolet..." oh & I forgot, "with the F28/6 gearbox, to overcome the wide spacing between 2nd & 3rd in the F25 box".

(which I didn't know before now), I can now see that you are more for power gains regardless of where the engine originated at the cost of losing the "originality" of the factory built calibra

IF the Calibra was a real 'classic' (i.e. either a 'supercar', or something really revolutionary, like the Citroen Light 15 Traction Avant, or DS, or the Morris Minor or Mini), then keeping it as 'standard' as possible would be the best way of maintaining its value. I don't see the Calibra as being in that category, so I am less of a purist about it. However, in about another 15-20 years, good examples of original Calibras will be much rarer and may be worth something (not a lot, but relatively more than they are now). However, sensitively 'tuned' Calibras, that keep to the basic precepts of the original car, may also hold their value, especially if the mods have been well done.

Generally a tuned, or even modified engine, does less, IMHO, to destroy the 'essence' of the original car than significant bodywork modifications.

Shifty · « **Reply #29 on:** June 01, 2009, 19:37:40 PM »

Quote from: J@zV6 on June 01, 2009, 19:30:23 PM

IF the Calibra was a real 'classic' (i.e. either a 'supercar', or something really revolutionary, like the Citroen Light 15 Traction Avant, or DS, or the Morris Minor or Mini), then keeping it as 'standard' as possible would be the best way of maintaining its value. I don't see the Calibra as being in that category, so I am less of a purist about it. However, in about another 15-20 years, good examples of original Calibras will be much rarer and may be worth something (not a lot, but relatively more than they are now). However, sensitively 'tuned' Calibras, that keep to the basic precepts of the original car, may also hold their value, especially if the mods have been well done.

Generally a tuned, or even modified engine, does less, IMHO, to destroy the 'essence' of the original car than significant bodywork modifications.

That's the answer I was looking for mate and I pretty much agree with you

I wasn't taking the piss, just never had this discussion with you before considering you are a clever chap

calibraboy · « **Reply #30 on:** June 01, 2009, 21:12:26 PM »

What ive done to my car so far is schrick cams irmsher power cap and a larger throttle body courtnay clutch an a group n chip a DB9 induction kit .Iv'e got to put on my four in to one stainless steel manifold thats 2.5 inc .Its been decated aswell

Martin. · « **Reply #31 on:** June 01, 2009, 21:31:27 PM »

I no what ya mean Shifty about RR being a possible disappointment! Think everyone should expect a bit less than what they work out on paper! Every car looses most of its ' horses' within the first 35'000 miles! an no cally is that low on miles!!! But RR gets the thumb up from me,I have a 4x4 turbo. Chipped, uprated intercooler wiv in car boost switch. and (according to last owner) is 270bhp wood like to know for sure. went to meet wiv calibraboy. his did a very good job of keeping up!!! (till the car in front of me moved over!! lol) NA his is QUICK. (at getting to national speed limit)

calibraboy · « **Reply #32 on:** June 01, 2009, 21:42:34 PM »

That was fun don't think the guy in the ST liked it when we went passed

Martin. · « **Reply #33 on:** June 01, 2009, 22:11:03 PM »

Feel sorry for anyone around town that day,espcilay when we headed out towards the orwell. Imagain looking in ya rear view mirror, The first thing ya see is vix's yellow cally closely followed by calibra boy wiv 3 turbo 4x4's (2 LE's) all gunning it up behind ya spread across both lanes. GREAT if ya a cally owner!!

richiem · « **Reply #34 on:** June 01, 2009, 23:28:53 PM »

Would of been a good laugh if we had some idiot give it to one of us on sunday

There would of been a wave of calis all over them like a squadron of spitfires on attack mode

Could of done the police interceptor move on them and boxed them in

calibraboy · « **Reply #35 on:** June 02, 2009, 13:06:28 PM »

Quote from: richiem on June 01, 2009, 23:28:53 PM

Would of been a good laugh if we had some idiot give it to one of us on sunday
There would of been a wave of calis all over them like a squadron of spitfires on attack mode
Could of done the police interceptor move on them and boxed them in

Yeah boxing them in would have been funny

rich_LE_31 · « **Reply #36 on:** June 02, 2009, 16:51:38 PM »

in my experiance the vauxhalls i've had rolling roaded havn't lost much bhp at all, infact my standard mk3 astra gsi c20xe made 156bhp more the stock figures , and the calibra LE made 194bhp when that was stock so not bad at all! rolling road days get a big thumbs up from me too, just a good day out with as load of laughs, who cares what engines got what bhp!

Shifty · « **Reply #37 on:** June 02, 2009, 17:05:17 PM »

Quote from: rich_LE_31 on June 02, 2009, 16:51:38 PM

who cares what engines got what bhp!

Erm.....anyone who puts their car on a rolling road i'd assume?

rich_LE_31 · « **Reply #38 on:** June 02, 2009, 17:15:24 PM »

well thats not to reason i go, yeah its nice to know what you've got, but i go to have a laugh with my mates!

Shifty · « **Reply #39 on:** June 02, 2009, 17:23:14 PM »

How about a pub? An event? a club?

Just being a wind up mate, do what you want

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